Kirsten Ibsdatter
1698 - 1762 (64 år)
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Navn Kirsten Ibsdatter Fødsel 1698 Langeg?rd, Rutsker, Bornholm, Danmark 
[1] Dåb 21 apr. 1698 Rutsker Church, Bornholm Køn Kvinde Død 1762 Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark [2] Begravelse 3 maj 1762 ?sterlars Churchyard, Bornholm Person-ID I13738 NLMadsen Sidst ændret 20 jul. 2023
Far Jep Madsen, f. ABT. 1667, H?jeg?rd, Rutsker, Bornholm, Danmark d. 1698, Langeg?rd, Rutsker, Bornholm, Danmark (Alder ~ 31 år) Tilknytning natural Mor Sidsele Christensdatter, f. ABT. 1668, Bornholm, Danmark d. 1723, ?ster Risehus, Nyker, Bornholm, Danmark (Alder ~ 55 år) Tilknytning natural Ægteskab 13 mar. 1695 Rutsker Church, Bornholm Familie-ID F04825 Gruppeskema | Familietavle
Familie Peder Hansen M?ller, f. ABT. 1693, Sandeg?rd, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark d. 1748, Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark (Alder ~ 55 år) Ægteskab 29 dec. 1724 ?sterlars Church, Bornholm Børn 1. Christen Pedersen, f. 1725, Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark d. 1798, Kj?llerg?rd grund, ?stermarie, Bornholm, Danmark (Alder 73 år) [natural]2. Sidsele Pedersdatter, f. 1728, Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark d. 1806-1830, R?nne, Bornholm, Danmark (Alder 102 år) [natural]3. Hans Pedersen M?ller, f. 1731, Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark d. 1807, Hjorteg?rd, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark (Alder 76 år) [natural]4. Giertrud Pedersdatter, f. 1734, Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark d. 1806, Skovsholm fortov, Ibsker, Bornholm, Danmark (Alder 72 år) [natural]5. Niels Pedersen M?ller, f. 1737, Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark d. 1800, Guddeg?rd, Bodilsker, Bornholm, Danmark (Alder 63 år) [natural]6. Jeppe Pedersen, f. 1740, Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark d. 1762, Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark (Alder 22 år) [natural]7. Mads Pedersen, f. 1744, Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark d. 1746, Sandeg?rd grund, ?sterlars, Bornholm, Danmark (Alder 2 år) [natural]Familie-ID F02250 Gruppeskema | Familietavle Sidst ændret 20 jul. 2023
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Notater - The assertion that Kirsten Ibsdatter is the daughter of Jep Madsen and Sidsele Christensdatter is based on the following body of circumstantial evidence:
1) The fact that Peder Hansen M?ller and Kirsten Ibsdatter named their first born son Christen, rather than Hans or even Jep, seemed odd to me. If Kirsten had previously been married to a man named Christen, then this would be explained - however, the evidence points to this being her first marriage. This led me to speculate on the possiblity that Christen was the name of a grandfather, and since neither of Peder's grandfathers were named Christen, then possibly one of Kirsten's grandfathers was known by that name. Further, the couple's first born daughter was named Sidsele, and their second was named Giertrud. Since Peder's mother was named Giertrud, this points to the possibility that Kirsten's mother was named Sidsele.
2) Based on the above I looked into the possibility that Kirsten's father was named Jep Christensen, or (since they named another son Mads) possibly Jep Madsen; and that her mother's name might have been Sidsele Christensdatter or Sidsele Madsdatter. This led to the discovery of Jep Madsen and Sidsele Christensdatter of Langeg?rd, the 48 Slg. in Rutsker parish.
3) A closer look at the baptism records of Peder and Kirsten's children lead to the discovery of an apparent connect to Jep Madsen's brother Mads Madsen (c.1679-1717) of Kobbeg?rd, the 2 Vdg. in ?sterlars parish! Mads Madsen was married to Sophie Hansdatter Leidring (c.1665-1752), with whom he had a son named David Madsen (c.1703-1768). After Mads Madsen's death Sophie married Peder Andersen (who died 1737). David later married Maren Michelsdatter (c.1696-1757), and they lived at his father's farm: Kobbeg?rd, 2 Vdg. ?sterlars.
The February 25, 1705 probate for Jep Madsen's father Mads Ibsen H?g tells us the following: "Dend anden s?n er Jep Madsen som ved d?den er afgangen, og haver efterlatte sig 2 b?rn, en s?n og en daatter, hvor af s?nnen er Jens Ibsen paa 9 aar gammel for ham er fader broderen Mons Madsen v?rge, daatteren er Kierstene Ibsdaatter paa 7 aar gammel, for hende er hendes fader broder Mads Madsen nu tilordned at vare v?rge og deris morfader Christen Persen att vare til sins v?rge." This tells us that in 1705 this very same Mads Madsen acted as represenative for Kirsten Ibsdatter, as did her mother's father Christen Pedersen.
In the baptism records of Peder and Kirsten's children we find the following:
a) In 1725: "Peder Hansens s?n Christen d?bt, Sophie Peder Anders bar ham", also attending that year was "David Matzen".
b) In 1740: "Peder M?llers barn Jeppe d?bt, Maren David Madsens kone bar ham".
4) Lastly, in baptism records of 1728 a "Helvig Michel Jens" is listed as attending, and in 1734: "Peder Hansen M?llers datter d?bt og kaldet Giertrud, barnet bar Helvig Michel Jensens". The wife of Michel Jensen was Helvig Mortensdatter, the daughter of Morten Davidsen (c.1665-1739) and Barbara Christensdatter (c.1667-1727) of Hulleg?rd, the 12 Slg. in Rutsker parish. In the Rutsker parish register, who do we find attending the April 21, 1698 baptism of "Sissele salig Jep Mats?ns datter kaldet Kerstene", but "Barbara Morten Davids"!! The information found in other baptism records in the Rusker parish register points to the probability that Barbara Christensdatter and Sidsele Christensdatter are related. Possibly they are sisters?
This database researched and compiled by Norman Lee Madsen, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, 21 July 2015.
- The assertion that Kirsten Ibsdatter is the daughter of Jep Madsen and Sidsele Christensdatter is based on the following body of circumstantial evidence:
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